Legislature(2019 - 2020)BARNES 124

02/27/2020 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS

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+ HB 221 STATE RECOGNITION OF TRIBES TELECONFERENCED
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*+ HB 193 SECOND VERSE OF ALASKA'S STATE SONG TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
            HB 193-SECOND VERSE OF ALASKA'S STATE SONG                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:20:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN announced that the  final order of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE BILL  NO. 193,  "An Act  adding a  second verse  to the                                                               
official state song."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:20:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Andi Story,  Alaska State  Legislature, as  prime                                                               
sponsor, presented HB  193.  She paraphrased  the written sponsor                                                               
statement  [included  in the  committee  packet],  which read  as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     House Bill 193  makes official the second  verse of the                                                                    
     Alaska  State Flag  Song, offering  long overdue  honor                                                                    
     and  recognition  to the  First  People  of Alaska  and                                                                    
     Alaska's  diverse cultures.  The  verse recognizes  the                                                                    
     history of  Alaska's flag  and its  young thirteen-year                                                                    
     old designer, Benny Benson,  while continuing the first                                                                    
     verse's theme  celebrating the beauty  of the  land and                                                                    
     hope for the future.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     It  is fitting  that  the State  of  Alaska, which  now                                                                    
     officially recognizes  twenty native languages  as well                                                                    
     as English  as our  State languages, to  honor Alaska's                                                                    
     history that precedes western settlers' arrival.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Carol  Beery   Davis,  an  Alaskan  pioneer   and  poet                                                                    
     laureate is  the author of  the second  verse. Inspired                                                                    
     by  her  daughter  and  a  friend,  Connie  Munro,  who                                                                    
     expressed  dissatisfaction   that  the  song   did  not                                                                    
     acknowledge Alaska Natives,  the original caretakers of                                                                    
     the  land,  she  wrote  the  verse  to  recognize  that                                                                    
     Alaska's history began  long before sourdoughs arrived,                                                                    
     and all are now a part of the State's history.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Since  it was  written  in 1987,  there  has been  work                                                                    
     towards  adoption of  the  second  verse, but  official                                                                    
     recognition has not yet been  realized. With a new wave                                                                    
     of support from this  generation's children, it is time                                                                    
     to do so.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Please join  me in supporting  the Alaska Flag  Song in                                                                    
     celebrating Alaska's long and rich history.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:22:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAITLYN  ELLIS, Staff,  Representative Andi  Story, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, presented HB 193 on  behalf of Representative Story,                                                               
prime  sponsor.   She  explained  that  the proposed  legislation                                                               
would add a  second verse to the Flag Song  but would not require                                                               
both  verses to  be  sung.   She stated  that  the University  of                                                               
Alaska  Foundation holds  the copyrights  to the  music and  both                                                               
verses; the  material was  donated to  the university  by Eleanor                                                               
Dussenbury, the  composer.   The lyrics of  the first  verse were                                                               
written by Marie  Drake, and the lyrics of the  second verse were                                                               
penned by Carol Beery Davis.   Ms. Ellis said that the university                                                               
holds  these  materials  in  the  trust to  the  benefit  of  the                                                               
university and the public and  maintains a neutral position on HB
193.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. ELLIS related  that in the last week, a  choir had been asked                                                               
to  sing the  Flag Song  at a  local event.   The  choir director                                                               
asked  the  event organizer  whether  the  choir could  sing  the                                                               
second  verse.    The  event   organizer  was  advised  by  state                                                               
officials  to answer  no, because  the second  verse was  not yet                                                               
official.   Passage  of HB  193 would  allow groups  to sing  the                                                               
second verse  at events,  such as  at the  opening of  Senate and                                                               
House  floor session,  and would  allow  the second  verse to  be                                                               
printed along  with the first  verse.  Ms. Ellis  said officially                                                               
adopting  the second  verse  would tell  a  more complete  story,                                                               
provide a full  picture of Alaska, and honor all  the cultures in                                                               
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:24:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN opened invited testimony on HB 193.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:25:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HUNTER  CARTE,  Fifth-Grade  Student, Glacier  Valley  Elementary                                                               
School, testified  in support of HB  193.  She said  the proposed                                                               
legislation  means  being  respectful  to  elders  and  kind  and                                                               
inclusive to all Alaska Native  cultures.  Further, it would show                                                               
that  if children  put their  minds to  something and  work hard,                                                               
"anything is  possible."  She  encouraged the committee  to "vote                                                               
'yes' for HB 193."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:26:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FAITH CONTRERAS,  Elementary Student, testified in  support of HB
193.  She  introduced herself first in a  Native Alaska language,                                                               
and then in English pointed out  that the first verse of the Flag                                                               
Song  mentions "the  gold of  the early  sourdough's dreams"  and                                                               
makes no  mention of Alaska Natives,  who have lived on  the land                                                               
for thousands of  years.  She expressed pride in  being an Alaska                                                               
Native but said she would be  even prouder "to be included in the                                                               
second verse."  She thanked the committee.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:27:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SAHARA  SHOEMAKE,  Student,  Glacier  Valley  Elementary  School,                                                               
testified in support  of HB 193.  She gave  three reasons to make                                                               
the second verse  of the Flag Song official.   First, she said it                                                               
is important for "not just children"  to know who Benny Benson is                                                               
[the  creator  of the  Alaska  Flag  design]  and to  learn  that                                                               
working on dreams  can have results.  Second,  she drew attention                                                               
to part of the second verse [on  page 1, lines 11-12, of HB 193],                                                               
which  read:   "to  share our  treasures hand  in  hand, to  keep                                                           
Alaska our Great  Land."  She described those words  as "a little                                                           
welcome  from Alaska  for  people who  come" -  a  way to  extend                                                               
honor, support,  and respect.   The third reason, she  stated, is                                                               
that "the Alaska  Natives are often forgotten."   She pointed out                                                               
that the first  verse says nothing about them.   Benny Benson was                                                               
an  Alaska  Native.   She  said  the  second verse  gives  Alaska                                                               
Natives "more  of a voice."   She  concluded, "I persuade  you to                                                               
vote yes to HB 193."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:29:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JUDAH  MARR,  Fourth-Grade  Student,  Glacier  Valley  Elementary                                                               
School,  recognized the  Auke  Kwan people,  "whose  land we  are                                                               
standing on  today," and  introduced himself  in a  Native Alaska                                                               
language and  English.  He  said he strongly believes  the second                                                               
verse  of  the Flag  Song  should  be  made official  because  it                                                               
recognizes the  creator of  the flag's  design, Benny  Benson, as                                                               
well as the  Alaska Native people, "who were the  first people of                                                               
this land."   He encouraged the committee to support  HB 193.  He                                                               
announced that the students would  sing both the first and second                                                               
verse of the Flag Song.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:30:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[The students sang both verses of the Flag Song.]                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:33:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN thanked the students for their performance.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:33:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE THOMPSON  related a story of  knowing Benny Benson                                                               
and  introducing him  and Dave  Adler at  an Elk's  convention in                                                               
Fairbanks, Alaska, in  1972.  He related that Mr.  Adler had been                                                               
on  the  committee  [in  1927] that  chose  the  winning  design.                                                               
Representative Thompson  said he  got to  introduce the  two men,                                                               
who had never previously met.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:34:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND  expressed gratitude to the  students for being                                                               
present.   She noted  that it  was students  who helped  name the                                                               
Alaska State  Dog, the  malamute.  She  said Benson  Boulevard in                                                               
Anchorage is named after Benny Benson  and a memorial to the flag                                                               
itself is at the corner  of Minnesota Drive and Benson Boulevard.                                                               
She said, "We  should be able to  add this ... verse  to the Flag                                                               
Song, and  it's totally appropriate  that a bunch of  school kids                                                               
are going to help us do this."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:36:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CONNIE MUNROE  remarked that  she had  never before  heard school                                                               
students testify  before the legislature, and  she considered the                                                               
experience a  gift.  As  a point  of interest, she  remarked that                                                               
the  sourdoughs addressed  in  the song  were  outsiders and  her                                                               
daughter, who works for Donlin  Gold, LLC, in Anchorage, recently                                                               
hired 100  Alaska Natives to open  a gold mine.   She offered her                                                               
educational    background    and   experience    speaking    with                                                               
superintendents around  the state, where  she found "all  of them                                                               
used  the  second  verse  in their  graduation  and  for  special                                                               
activities, too."   She talked about those who  have attempted to                                                               
garner support for  the second verse, including  the late Senator                                                               
Bettye Davis and the Alaska Native Sisterhood and Brotherhood.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. MUNROE said she lost her job  in the early '80s and was about                                                               
to leave  the state to take  another job, and that  is when Carol                                                               
Beery  Davis wrote  "this song";  it was  a farewell  gift.   Ms.                                                               
Munroe ended  up getting  her job back  and remaining  in Alaska.                                                               
She continued:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The song just moved me.  I refused to sing it until                                                                        
     the indigenous people were recognized, and that's how                                                                      
     this all came about.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. MUNROE  indicated there had  been support from the  House and                                                               
Senate in the  past; however, "there was one  person that thought                                                               
the second  verse was not to  his liking."  She  said she pleaded                                                               
with this  person to find  someone "to  write another one."   She                                                               
continued:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Our legislators at that time  said, "We will not hold a                                                                    
     contest because it'll open up  a can of worms.  Instead                                                                    
     we'll wait for  someone to ... write it  and present it                                                                    
     to us."  And so, that's  how that happened.  And that's                                                                    
     why Carol wrote it.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. MUNROE urged the committee to support HB 193.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:41:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN  asked Ms. Munroe what  her relationship is                                                               
to the woman who wrote the second verse of the Flag Song.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MUNROE answered,  "Her daughter  was my  best friend."   She                                                               
talked about what an incredible person  Ms. Beery Davis was.  She                                                               
mentioned a  book, The Totem  Song, which  she said is  the first                                                             
book published with  Alaska Native songs and is  available at the                                                               
Alaska State Library.   Shared that she was nervous.   She shared                                                               
that she is 85 and just learned she is cancer free.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:43:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNE C.  FULLER testified in  support of HB 193.   She said  as a                                                               
storyteller, she ponders over words,  which matter.  She said she                                                               
thinks the printing  and singing of the second  verse "will touch                                                               
our minds."  She predicted  that people would consider the words,                                                               
"no  bars  among our  cultures."    She  recalled the  advice  of                                                               
Elizabeth  Peratrovich that  people  speak their  intent to  help                                                               
overcome  discrimination.   She  urged the  committee to  "please                                                               
move this bill along."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:45:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAURIE  HEGGIE, PhD,  Music  Teacher,  Glacier Valley  Elementary                                                               
School,  expressed  appreciation   to  Representative  Story  for                                                               
listening to the  students and sponsoring HB 193.   She indicated                                                               
that not all  the students who wanted to testify  today were able                                                               
to do  so.  She said  the day before [students]  had presented at                                                               
"the  Innovation Summit"  to  show the  power  of people  working                                                               
together to  effect change, and  following the  presentation, one                                                               
of the  students remarked on  the diversity of  cultures present.                                                               
Dr. Heggie tied  that into how the second verse  of the Flag Song                                                               
illustrates  inclusivity.     She   thanked  the   committee  for                                                               
listening to  the children describe  what the second  verse means                                                               
to them.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:47:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN explained the process  of hearing a bill twice in                                                               
committee to the  children present, and said  the committee would                                                               
hear HB 193 a second time at its next meeting.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:48:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  said  she remembered  hearing  the  Alaska                                                               
Native  Sisterhood sing  the second  verse in  the past,  and she                                                               
said she knew there was "a  deep longing to have the second verse                                                               
become part of our state song."   She said she heard sincerity in                                                               
the  students'  descriptions of  what  the  words mean  to  them.                                                               
Hearing them and knowing how many  people in the past wanted [the                                                               
second verse recognized] made it easy  for her to sponsor HB 193.                                                               
She expressed  having a connection  with Ms. Beery  Davis, having                                                               
been  her home  health aide  at one  time.   She said  the second                                                               
verse moves  her because  it recognizes  all cultures  in Alaska.                                                               
She urged the committee to pass HB 193 out of committee.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Due to technical issues, the  following is available only on the                                                               
MP3 audio  from House  Records on BASIS,  not the  Media Services                                                               
audio/video.]                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:52:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Students performed a rap song  they created in support of making                                                               
the second  verse of  the Flag  Song an  official version  of the                                                               
song.]                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:54:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN  thanked the student  and teacher  presenters for                                                               
their efforts in coming before the committee today.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
[HB 193 was held over.]                                                                                                         

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